minnesota tomorrow, he's going to be there to try to defeat michele bachmann in supporting a guy named jim graves who is a self-made guy. this is a guy that came from a very humble background. he's a very successful businessman. in fact, joy, if the republicans wanted to get somebody to run, this is the kind of guy that they'd go after. >> yeah. >> what kind of effect can bill clinton have on a high-profile tea partier who has been very critical of the president from day one, michele bachmann? >> think about what you just said. this candidate on the democratic side is a perfect democrat and a perfect dlc -- he's somebody that michele bachmann's softer supporters, whether it's women who are concerned with her position on women's issues, or republicans, there are a lot of republicans who look fondly at bill clinton, who might be thinking, you know what, michele bachmann was a little too extreme for me, but if clinton is validating this guy he might be my kind of democrat. >> all right, joy reid, thanks for joining us. >>> coming up, katy perry helps president obama get out the vote in wiscon